You don't have to be a genius to recognize that evil deeds happen, especially when it involves deliberate killing children in the name of G-d. Why do people have the license to be evil?
However, the pain did drive him to question his faith in G-d ("Why have you forsaken me"?), and to their credit, no censors have deleted that rare indication of human weakness.
I don't think anyone is in doubt that as a man Jesus could feel things. Credit where credit is due, according to the bible God raised him up and healed him.
Hello, Readith, glad to meet you!
Although I haven't had much luck in resisting pain (it usually just festers under the surface), I'm in full agreement with you when you say that our ability to endure pain differentiates us from the murderer. Enduring pain is allowing that pain to pass through us. It's my undrstanding that the original meaning of the word "suffer" was "allow", like when Jesus said, "Suffer (allow) the little children to come unto me." And a good way, in my opinion, to endure pain -- to allow it to pass through us -- is to share it with God. I covered some of this in my book of philosophy:
However, although suffering in life carries with it
the possibility of strengthening character,
it by no means guarantees the certainty
of such growth.
For the outcome of a person’s encounter with pain
is determined by how constructively or destructively
that person deals with it,
and often, how well that person shares
their suffering, their loss, with God.
For really all suffering, all pain,
involves the loss of something.
Even a minor injury means losing a certain degree
of comfort or mobility, or both.
Show me a painful experience that does not involve a loss,
and I’ll show you a loss well hidden.
For even the pain of a desire unfulfilled,
of something not yet attained, involves a kind of loss.
Because there was a previous time
when that desire didn’t exist or was sleeping,
when one was content with a lack,
was innocent of a want or need.
It was a time, now lost, gone with lost innocence—
like when there is the ache for sexual union
only after one’s sexuality awakens,
only after that innocence is lost.
But how well we deal with such longing,
or really how well we deal with any pain or loss,
depends on how constructive or destructive
our approach is, our attitude is.
And how constructive or destructive we are towards others
concerning our own suffering
is determined by how thoroughly and genuinely
we share our painful experiences with God.
So I would say that the inability to endure pain in this way "causes a vicious cycle of pain as dishing out on others only causes more pain." (And I hope you don't mind me substituting "endure" for "resist" when quoting you. I couldn't have said it better myself!)
I'm also in full agreement with you about people who commit evil being in tremendous pain, and that we aren't the best judges of who's in pain and who's not -- and why. I'd like to share with you one more passage about this from my book:
And it is these offerings that alleviate the pain
of the lacks that we experience.
It is the joy and strength produced by God’s touch
that can quell the desires for lesser things—
things that are not rightfully ours,
things that would unjustifiably harm another
for us to obtain, to use and possess.
It is the joy of God’s touch that is like a healing ointment
on the open wound of evil’s doings and desires.
When someone commits evil,
it is attributed to that person’s faults.
But what contributes to a person’s faults?
Are they Frightened,
Before we rush to judge someone as essentially bad,
let’s get to the roots of their sufferings,
so that we may more fully understand
why they sometimes commit evil.
It is with such understanding
that we can approach them as they truly are,
instead of reproaching them
for what they sometimes do.
It is through such understanding
that we can nurture compassion
toward one who has done wrong,
maybe giving them a glimpse
of the kind of love God has for them,
when they might not have discovered it
on their own.
This is why I believe we should never condemn anyone, Readith. We don't know for sure what's in other people's hearts ... or what God is doing there.
So, Readith, I guess a good "spiritual equation" for what we've been talking about would be:
PAIN ÷ ENDURING + FORGIVENESS = PEACE
Simple as 1-2-3!
If it hurts, it isn't love. That's how you can tell if it comes form God or the ego. Love never hurts!
Pain = Attachment = Judgment = Guilt = MISTAKE!
Simple, even animals know when they are making a mistake. Only intellectual humans analyse the problem and carry on making the same mistake.
To create a miracle, change your mind :)
You cannot exist without wanting, and to want is the beginning of pain.
I think it depends on your definition of wanting. If you are attached to what you want then your attachment says you don't really believe you can have what you want. Wanting something wholly is desire, and what you desire is what God wills for you. If you are not attached to what you want you can just ask and receive. Pain is the resistance to what God wills for you (through fear). In that respect pain, like fear, is an illusion. That is why pain is temporary and can be healed. If it were real we would have no way of correcting our mistakes. Wanting to correct our mistakes is not delusional !
But simply being hungry or too cold is to want something, which is the beginning of motion in the absence of abdication and death. The motion to acquire a solution to the wanting creates a whole range of possible consequences, one of which is competition for the desired result. The competition can bring about a range of tactics that can be harmful to some and rewarding for others. When does it become evil? According to some, the only sin is to lose the race.
According to A Course in Miracles there is no sin, only mistakes that call for correction through a change of mind. To me it is (what I judge as) evil when someone intentionally listens to the wrong guide and acts on that even if that means hurting themselves and others as an attack on God. But even then "evil" still only means "mistake".